Talk:Sengoku Rance:Clear everything in four games/@comment-84.195.86.124-20150610150245

I'm very confused on the second game. The guide says to not conquer Iga, Mouri or Takeda until you've triggered Kouhime's kidnapping (which I understand, this delays the fifth gourd as long as possible)... but then says to not fight Xavier in Honnou temple until you've recruited every commander from these 3 nations, which requires you to conquer them. As far as I'm aware, the assault on Honnou happens very shortly after the kidnapping, and you're not allowed to attack in that time... Am I missing something here?